While I realize that this topic is going to get a lot of comments, both pro and con, I think it is important to discuss. I do not shy away from controversy, especially when I do not feel the subject is controversial in the first place.
When I was a child, the Public Health Department apparently had the right to give us vaccines at school without our parent's permission. I think the parents had to send in a note if they did NOT want their child to get vaccinated; otherwise they lined us up like cattle and just did it. Of course, that was when we had polio, measles, whooping cough, chicken pox, German measles, and other kid-killers in our communities. It only takes one child with polio in a small town to get people lining up for their sugar cubes (the oral vaccine used to be given on a sugar cube). Not any more.
Perhaps, this is because this new generation of parents has never experienced these terrible childhood diseases, or perhaps because the Internet is just scaring people. Nothing in life is 100% safe; but vaccines are pretty darn close, and in my opinion, they are the best defense we have to keep these diseases from making a comeback.
Some of my patients decided that it was the "combination" of vaccines that caused autism, so they wanted the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines given separately. While they are available separately, our group does not have them, nor do we have any intention of buying them just to appease this unsubstantiated belief. Some parents were so convinced that they bought their OWN separate vaccines. Separate measles vaccine comes in ten dose packages and costs about $1500. The child needs just one dose; the other nine will go to waste. The vaccine can deactivate unless it is kept at very precise temperatures. Unfortunately, medical offices have no idea how this vaccine was stored after the parents obtained it. If stored improperly, the vaccine may be ineffective. Legally, medical offices would be a risk to administer any vaccine to a child if we did not have knowledge of its validity. A few years ago, one of our storage refrigerators went on the blink and was actually too cold. The result? Our medical group had to scrap about $20,000 worth of immunizations; and spend ump-teen more bucks re-vaccinating children that may have received improperly stored vaccine. We now have some higher-tech, computer monitored refrigerators so this never happens again. Basically, if parents choose to buy their own vaccine, they are going to have to administer it themselves. Not a good idea, folks.
Now, a comment about the mercury preservative: Mercury can be deadly and cause brain damage. Of course, when I was a kid, we played with it. Maybe this is why I had problems with math or memory? We used mercury to our pennies and we rolled it around like some mysterious silver liquid. We used mercury thermometers. If the broke, we just salvaged the mercury to play with it. There was mercury in our medicines, and there was mercury in the creek we swam in. Did I tell you that I had problems with math?
In vaccines, thimerosal - a mercury derivative - was used in very trace amounts as a preservative. Currently, the vast majority of vaccines (just the flu vaccine) do NOT have thimerosal, but there is a public perception that they do, and that thimerosal and the MMR vaccine (measles, mumps, and rubella) is directly linked to autism. Even though there is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE that thimerosal or the MMR causes autism, there are thousands of Internet sites that dispute it. The Institute of Medicine published a review of data on autism and vaccines, and no casual relationship was found. Another study by theCenters for Disease Control and Prevention showed that thimerosal had NO EFFECT on development. The study also found that there was no evidence of the measles virus in the blood of children with autism. The rates of autism are even increasing in countries that do not use thimerosal.
So, what gives? Are we just getting better at diagnosing autism, or is there another cause yet to be discovered. Personally, I think there are other factors, but as of today, no one has been able to find them. This week, I had about six children in my office that had autism. If there is a discoverable cause, I hope someone finds it...soon. My heart goes out to those families caring for a challenging child with various degrees of autism. If parental love could cure this disease, there would be no autism.
People do not trust their government to tell them the truth. Maybe it is because we keep catching our government in lies. People do not trust their doctors as much anymore, either. But, is it a good idea to trust the people at the health food stores or your chiropractor's office on this important public health issue? People should trust our educational institutions, however. When you research information on the Internet, make sure of the quality of the information. Who actually is "Concerned Doctors Against Immunizations" or "Autism and Measles Vaccine Conclusively Linked"? (Incidentally, I made those up. Hopefully, they aren't real sites.) Some anti-immunization sites can certainly appear to be legitimate; quoting scientific studies, etc. Try looking up those studies and try digging deeper into who is sponsoring those sites and you will get an eye-opener.
In the end, people believe what they are going to believe. Even in the face of overwhelming evidence that the trace mercury preservative, the vaccine, or even the measles virus itself is NOT the smoking gun for autism, people still have the right to choose what diseases they would like to risk in their children. Did I vaccinate my own children and grandchildren? You bet. Do I recommend vaccines for my patients? Definitely.
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In Australia about 30 years ago, one out two died aboriginal kids after getting vaccinations. A doctor decided that was unacceptable, and injected vitamin C in the butt 24 hours before the vaccine was injected. Not a one died. He wrote an article about it, and his medical license was revoked for 20 years. He wrote a book about it. I think the book was titled One Out of Two.
There is absolutely no scientific evidence that autism is caused by the vaccine or vaccine preservatives. I wish we did know the cause of autism.....
Again, you can believe what you want to believe. I have to rely on evidence-based, scientific studies.
One of the ingredients the FDA spoke on was formaldehyde and if I am not mistaken when I took my son to get his vaccinations and I saw the inserts that was in his vaccines. The FDA talks about all the things that this can cause just by inhaling this into your lungs(because this is something that is used in alot of house cleaning products) what about injecting this into your blood? Wouldn't you think that's even worse?
So for doctors to tell me that vaccines are 100% safe for EVERYONE is complete horsecrap to me considering nobody is the same.
And DR's you can say what you want about the parents who notice slight changes after that MMR you can't convince me that EVERY PARENT is a idiot that notices changes after that shot. It's just that you guys don't want to tell the truth. I also find a hard time believing even if there is a proven link between autism and vaccines that you guys will tell the public because you all will lose out on millions of dollars plus there will be so many lawsuits(whether they pay them or not).
I TRULY do NOT see you guys telling the truth vs. losing millions of dollars.
2% got paralytic polio and out of that 2% (so .04%) got iron lung effect. 50% of those people totally recovered.So if we compare that to the numbers of death that vaccines cost each year wouldn't it be more honest to rather call it "killer vaccine". Oh yeah and to answer your question why people don't trust their doctors no more, because of money hunger idiots like you who try to tell people that mercury is absolutly harmless just to make another buck of an vaccine. Shame on you...
Suspected gastrointestinal, liver, nerve and respiratory system poison.
Known to cause cancer, suspected gastrointestinal, liver, respiratory, skin and sense organ poison
Genetically modified yeast, animal, bacterial and viral DNA
Can be incorporated into the recipient's DNA and cause genetic mutations.
Can cause life-threatening allergic reactions
Monosodium glutamate (MSG)
Being studdied for mutagenic, teratogenic (developmental malformation and monstrosities) and reproductive effects. A neurotoxinAllergic reactions range from mild to severe.
Implicated as a cause of brain damage, suspected factor in alzeheimers, dementia, seizures and comas. Allergic reactions can occur on skin.
Major constituent of embalming fluid; poisonous if ingested. Probable carcinogen; suspected gastrointestinal, liver, immune system, nerve, reproductive system and respiratory poison. Linked to lukemia, brain, colon and lymphatic cancers. (So toxic that when working with it, you must have your face covered so you dont breathe in too many of the fumes... and we're injecting ourselves with it.)
Live and killed viri and bacteria or their toxins. The polio vaccine was contaminated with a monkey virus now turning up in human bone, lung lining, brain tumors and lymphomas.
Known to cause cancer in animals
Suspected nerve and kidney poison
Poisonous if injected. Causes birth defects in experimental animals
Produced from pieces of calf and cattle skins, de-minerialized cattle bones and pork skin. Allergic reactions have been reported.
Gentamicin sulfate and polymyxin B
Allergic reactions can range from mild to life threatening.
One of the most poisonous substances known. Has an affinity for the brain, gut, liver, bone-marrow and kidneys. Minute amounts can cause nerve damage. Symptoms of mercury toxocity are similar to those of autism.
Interferes with Vitamin B6 absorption. An error in the update of B6 can cause a form of epilepsy and mental retardation. Allergic reactions can be mild to life-threatening.
Phenol / phenoxyethanol (2-pe)
Used as an antifreeze. Toxic to all cells and cabable of disabling the immune system's primary response mechanism.
Human and animal cells
Human cells from aborted fetal tissue and human albumin. Pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain, guinea pig, dog kidney, cow heart, monkey kidney, chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg, calf serum, sheep blood and others.
" A major cause of the roman empire's decline after 6 centuries of world dominance was its replacement of stone aqueducts by lead pipes for the transport and supply of drinking water. Roman engineers, the best in the world, turned their fellow citizens into neurological cripples. Today, our own "best and brightest" with the best of intentions, achieve the same end through childhood vaccination programs yeilding the modern scourges of hyperactivity, learning disabilities, autism, appetite disorders, and impulsive violence."
-Harris L. Coulter, Ph. D
Using the Calculator to see how much murcury your baby is geting
This mercury calculator will help you determine how much mercury a child received at previous vaccination visits or could receive in an upcoming visit. The products are listed by brand name and manufacturer. Some vaccines have two company names because over the past several decades there have been many company mergers.
Just enter the weight of the child and click on the brand name /manufacturer of the vaccine. A number will show at the top and tell you if it is over the EPA standard of 0.1 mcg per kilogram of bodyweight.
If you want to calculate your child's overall exposure to mercury containing vaccines on multiple visits, you will have to enter each visit individually, using the weight of your child at the time of the visit and then add them all together.
The dose thought to be safely allowed on a daily basis by EPA is 0.1mcg per kilogram of body weight per day. At 2 months of age a baby will have received 62.5 mcg of mercury from 3 infant vaccines. According to EPA criteria, his allowable dose was only 0.5mcg based on his weight. Thats 125 times the babies allowable exposure on that one day. These large injected bolus exposures continued at 4, 6, 12 and 18 months to a total mercury exposure of 237.5 mcg. I also discovered that the injections that I received during the first and third trimesters of my pregnancy and hours after the delivery of my son to prevent RH blood incompatibility also contained mercury.
A single broken feaver thermometer contains 0.05 to 1.5 grams of mercury which is enough to create a healh hazard in a small room
SO anyone that feels that all vaccines are safe is high
Autism and Mercury....I feel strongly about those 2 having a connection because until they started adding those ingredients we didn't have such a high amount of children getting autism. Since 1982 25 yrs there has been about 30 other vax's made for our children
For those of u who do Vax and think its safe stop being lazy asses and read more about them, they're not proven to work or for their safty and most times they cause more harm then good, beides you dont have life long immunity to them anyways
So if you look at it this way
U and most adults out there basically are not immuinized, vaccines last 10 yrs not alife time!!!!!
One more thing. OF COURSE THEY AREN'T GOING TO FIND ANYTHING IN THEIR JUNK RESEARCH LINKING AUTISM AND VACCINES!!!! Do you realize how much money they'd lose? Not just in sales of vaccines but also in compensating the hundreds of thousands of families living with an autistic child?
Did you know that the CDC defines a "long-term study" as 14 days? 14 DAYS, PEOPLE! THe flu incubates for 14 days before any symptoms show up. Come on here. If you dont want to get burned, dont stick your arm in a furnace. If you dont want to get sick, dont shoot up with diseases laced with deadly toxicity.
Common sense is seriously lacking in this country.
Please see this page which is a historical timeline of outbreaks of infectious diseases such as measles, polio, influenza, smallpox and cholera. Please note how often the term "kill" is used.
Measles is absolutely deadly and absolutely preventable. If you walk through graveyards in the midwest you will see entire families who died of it during the outbreak in the 19th century. Civil War soldiers, particularly those who were held in Union prison camps were particularly hard hit.
Yet you say it is not deadly. You are sadly mistaken.
And if you're lucky enough to survive, you might be blind as a result.
Mumps can kill and it can leave men infertile. Rubella was one of the number one killers of unborn children before the vaccine.
And then laughably, you say "Polio hasn't even EXISTED in the US...".
Why do you suppose that is? Right. Vaccinations.
Here's the problem, of course. Measles, mumps, rubella and polio all exist in other countries. Japan, for example, is the number one importer of measles. Despite having instituted a vaccination program, there have been measles outbreaks as recently as April of this year at Japanese universities.
Polio still exists, too, though it is mostly eradicated as a result of a world-wide initiative to vaccinate.
You say: "...start focusing on promoting health rather than running away from sickness. "
There is no better or more effective way to promote health than to PREVENT infectious, deadly disease. None. Zero, zip, nada.
You want wellness education, start by protecting your kids from blindness, sterility, disability and death.
There are a lot of things you can accuse pharmas of, but not making big bucks on basic vaccines. That's just a whacko conspiracy theory that's untested, unproven, and borne out of ignorance.
You'd think that if the anti-vaxxers were so concerned about this, they'd fund their own study, but I've not seen one to date that credibly links the two.
When you say common sense lacks, we agree. It is an utter lack of common sense for any parent to risk their child's eyesight, health and life on a whack-brained theory that vaccines are evil causes of autism.
After the one year MMR shot, my son's temperature rose to 105 and shortly afterwards, his regression began. The research that I have done suggested the possibility of a connection between long term antibiotic (Augmentin) use in the first year and its effect on the body's ability to eliminate the mercury.
Let's think about it- vaccinations with Thimerisol have been around since the 1930s. Why is autism on the rise? Why now? What is different than in the 1930s? 1940s? 1960s? Extended antibiotic use.
My son was on Augmentin from the time he was 5 months until shortly after his first birthday (chronic ear infections). I think that more research needs to be done on a variety of combinations so we can stop blaming everybody for the epidemic and start focusing our attention where it belongs- curing our children.
Thank you for listening.
Will you tell me if you would do this? I would love to know why or why not. Thank you
To the above poster.. Good post. I agree with you, my son was antibiotics for the first 3 days of his life(maybe 5 cant remember). But what if you spoke to the Dr. about that, I wonder if they would have taken that into consideration or just brushed it off.
However, the majority of concerned unvaccinating parents that I speak with (Seattle houses a large community of non-vaccinated families) didn't rely solely on the internet for their information. Nor did they rely on chiropractors, or grocers in their local health food stores. Most of us studied this issue from early in our pregnanies, reading books, speaking with doctors directly, and researching the ingredients of the vaccinations individually.
I'll use myself as one example. I began my quest for knowledge of vaccinations before I was 20 weeks pregnant. With both of my brothers on the autism spectrum, and the floating "link" between mercury, vaccination, and autism, I felt compelled to make informed decisions as my child's well-being seemed at stake.
As a former history major, I understand the finer points of how to properly research an issue. I pulled census records from the last century, researched the diseases and their likelihood in our areas, and finally, researched the ingredients themselves, one by one independent of the term "vaccination". It took me over a year to form a solid opinion.
I fielded accusations of child abuse from concerned relatives, doctors that made condescending remarks (but gave no real reasons for vaccinating), and lots of personal doubt that the decision I made was the right one. But a concoction of dead (or live) virus, formaldehyde, ether, detergent, and hard metals, none of which should be placed in the adult bloodstream outside of vaccination, hardly seemed healthy or appropriate to place in my infant's immature body.
Yes, you don't agree with my decision. But when I made every effort to come to a decision and the best I could get out of any doctor was "we vaccinate because those diseases are deadly" without a single thought being given to 1)continuing efficacy in adulthood, 2)longterm studies of direct and indirect effects of the vaccinations on the human body, 3)discussing the outbreaks of vaccinated diseases and whether vaccinated children/adults came down with them as well, etc. There was considerable difficulty obtaining the vaccination insert from the doctor (which, legally, should be OFFERED, not requested)and I was all but threatened about my decision. You can understand my absolute shock that someone that should be the most trusted professional in my child's life offered nothing but threats and sidestepping statements.
Sir, truly, the nonvaccinating community isn't as stupid as you'd think at first glance. We are, for the most part, well-educated and caring parents. We are making decisions that are best for our children, considering the information and discussion being offered to us.
If you truly want to make a case for vaccination to us, don't brush off the mothers that say "my child shut down literally within the week of recieving XY vaccination", encourage discussion, explain the effects (or lack thereof)of heavy metals on the infantile immune system, encourage us to truly research, offer us every resource you know of. In short, care as much as we do about the life we're protecting.
I'm sure you're a wonderful doctor, a kind and caring soul. But others in your profession would be wise to step off the high horse and come down to the level of the mere mortals. We need information, respect, and a listening ear. Doctors that brush mothers off and deny us the simple answers we request are partially responsible for the rise in non-vaccinated children. If you truly believe that not vaccinating leads down a dark path, help educate your community to be more inviting to parents.
Thank you for your time.
A concerned mother
Polio was NOT erradicated because of vaccines. It was almost erradicated naturally before we started vaccinating. In fact, we are KEEPING THE VIRUS ALIVE by culturing it artificially with a vaccine. AND, less than 1% of polio cases actually cause paralysis. The majority of the time, polio feels like a bad flu. Polio vaccines were originally made with SV-40 which is now showing up as a cause for countless kinds of cancer. And they are predicting that its going to take 5 GENERATIONS to get SV40 out of the human race. Really safe. 100% of the cases of polio now WORLDWIDE are in the vaccinated community. 100% is a pretty significant amount.
And the measels does NOT equate with sterility. That occurs in less than 2% of the population that get the measels. Most of my family had the measels as children and they are just fine. My chiropractor actually went out of his way to make sure his kids got rubella so they wuold have lifelong immunity to it. They survived just fine.
And you will NEVER convince me that the chicken pox is deadly. I am not that stupid.
I believe this: the truth will come out eventually. The truth is that vaccines are harming children and adults alike. When it does, the vaccine makers will say, "We told you they had adverse side effects." ANd they'll say that they told you this all along.
You know that the CDC and the FDA have members that vote on the vaccine schedule that OWN PATENTS FOR THE VACCINE! That is a conflict of interest, my friends but it is alowed. I personally am not going to shoot up my baby with a bunch of diseases that have NO PROOF OF ACTUALY IMMUNITY, and are FULL of chemicals that are PROVEN to be hazardous to your health because some corporate mucky muck with junk research and a financial stake at hand says it's "best for my baby." Common sense again...
"We surveyed over 9,000 boys in California and Oregon and found that vaccinated boys had a 155% greater chance of having a neurological disorder like ADHD or autism than unvaccinated boys." - Generation Rescue
- Read our press release discussing the survey here.
- Read an article from UPI Investigative reporter Dan Olmsted Discussing the survey: Study Sees Vaccine Risk.
If you are interested in learning about alternative vaccine schedules, please read our section titled On Vaccines.
Generation Rescue commissioned an independent opinion research firm, SurveyUSA of Verona NJ, to conduct a telephone survey in nine counties in California and Oregon. Counties were selected by Generation Rescue. Interviews were successfully completed in 11,817 households with one or more children age 4 to 17. From those 11,817 households, data on 17,674 children was gathered. Of the 17,674 children inventoried, 991 were described as being completely unvaccinated. For each unvaccinated child, a health battery was administered.
Generation Rescue chose to use telephone interviews with parents to gather data on children, so as to closely mirror the methodology the CDC uses to establish national prevalence for NDs such as ADHD and autism through their national phone survey of parent responses. Generation Rescue chose to focus on children ages 4-17 to match the age range used by CDC.
Are parent responses a reliable indicator of a child's diagnostic status? According to Dr. Laura Schieve, co-author of the CDC's national phone survey study, in discussing the CDC's two phone surveys on autism prevalence, "the consistency of prevalence estimates across the two surveys supports high reliability or reproducibility of parental report of autism and reliability is one important component of validity."
SurveyUSA is a well-known national opinion research firm with unique expertise in canvassing local communities. SurveyUSA has no vested interest in any outcome this or any survey might produce. You can see a copy of the questionnaire used in the survey here. The data the survey intended to capture included:
- Households with a child or children aged 4-17
- Whether or not that child had been vaccinated
- Whether or not that child had any one (or more) of the following diagnosis: ADD, ADHD, Asperger's, PDD-NOS, Autism, Asthma, or Juvenile Diabetes (the final two of which were added to consider other health outcomes).
The results of the survey allowed us to compare the prevalence (what percentage of children have a particular diagnosis) to see if there was any meaningful difference between unvaccinated and vaccinated children.
The most common way to measure prevalence differences is through a calculation known as relative risk or the Risk Ratio, where we compared prevalence amongst unvaccinated children to prevalence amongst vaccinated children. So, if 5% of unvaccinated children have asthma, and 10% of vaccinated children have asthma, that represents an "RR" of 2.0 (10%/5%), or a difference of 100%. We were also able to look at the data by gender, age, and county.
SurveyUSA gathered data on 9,175 boys and 8,499 girls. Counties surveyed in California included:
Counties surveyed in Oregon included:
The results of the survey can be accessed as a pdf file here. This is the primary data we received from SurveyUSA and it can be used for anyone to independently analyze our results.
Generation Rescue analyzed the data provided by SurveyUSA, and a copy of our analysis can be found here. The most notable results of our survey are with the boys, which is not surprising considering boys represent approximately 80% of total cases of NDs. Namely:
All vaccinated boys, compared to unvaccinated boys:
- Vaccinated boys were 155% more likely to have a neurological disorder (RR 2.55)
- Vaccinated boys were 224% more likely to have ADHD (RR 3.24)
- Vaccinated boys were 61% more likely to have autism (RR 1.61)
Older vaccinated boys, ages 11-17 (about half the boys surveyed), compared to older unvaccinated boys:
- Vaccinated boys were 158% more likely to have a neurological disorder (RR 2.58)
- Vaccinated boys were 317% more likely to have ADHD (RR 4.17)
- Vaccinated boys were 112% more likely to have autism (RR 2.12)
(Note: older children may be a more reliable indicator because many children are not diagnosed until they are 6-8 years old, and we captured data beginning at age 4.)
All vaccinated boys, removing one county with unusual results (Multnomah, OR), compared to unvaccinated boys:
- Vaccinated boys were 185% more likely to have a neurological disorder (RR 2.85)
- Vaccinated boys were 279% more likely to have ADHD (RR 3.79)
- Vaccinated boys were 146% more likely to have autism (RR 2.46)
All vaccinated boys and girls, compared to unvaccinated boys and girls:
- Vaccinated boys and girls were 120% more likely to have asthma (RR 2.20)
- No correlation established for juvenile diabetes
All vaccinated girls, compared to unvaccinated girls:
- No meaningful differences in prevalence were noted for NDs (which may be due to the smaller sample size of the study because girls represent about 20% of cases.)
Generation Rescue is not representing that our study proves that the U.S. vaccine schedule has caused an epidemic in neurological disorders amongst our children. We are a small non-profit organization. For less than $200,000, we were able to complete a study that the CDC, with an $8 billion a year budget, has been unable or unwilling to do. We think the results of our survey lend credibility to the urgent need to do a larger scale study to compare vaccinated and unvaccinated children for neurodevelopmental outcomes.
It is also the opinion of Generation Rescue that we are over-vaccinating our children, and we encourage parents to use caution in how they choose to vaccinate their children, particularly boys. In the vaccine section of our website, we provide additional detail on vaccines and vaccinating safely and provide three alternative vaccine schedules parents may want to consider for their children.
In 1983, the Centers for Disease Control ("CDC") recommended a total of 10 vaccines for our children up to the age of 5. In 2007, the CDC recommends 36, an increase of 260%, or 3.6x. (See a comparison here).
During this time period, we have witnessed an epidemic of childhood neurological disorders ("NDs"). Today, the CDC estimates that 1 in 13 U.S. children has been diagnosed with ADHD and 1 in 150 has been diagnosed with autism. In the 1980s, ADHD was almost unheard of and autism was estimated to affect 1 in 10,000 children. Boys are significantly more affected by NDs, accounting for approximately 80% of all cases.
Unfortunately, the mainstream media still misreports that the explosive growth in NDs is the results of "better diagnosis" despite the considerable published scientific research to refute this position. As one example, Department of Developmental Services in California, known for keeping the best autism data in the country, issued this report regarding the growth of autism rates in California where they stated:
"There is no evidence that a loosening in the diagnostic criteria has contributed to increased number of autism clients...we conclude that some, if not all, of the observed increase represents a true increase in cases of autism in California...a purely genetic basis for autism does not fully explain the increasing autism prevalence. Other theories that attempt to better explain the observed increase in autism cases include environmental exposures to substances such as mercury; viral exposures; autoimmune disorders; and childhood vaccinations."
Many parents blame vaccines for their children's ND, and many published biological studies seem to support this position, because vaccines contain ingredients capable of causing neurological damage. Yet, no studies have ever been done to compare ND rates of unvaccinated children to vaccinated children. Until now.
(Note: Neurolological disorders include ADD, ADHD, Asperger's, PDD-NOS, and Autism.)
There is a lot of misreporting that would lead parents to believe that vaccines have already been scientifically proven to be unrelated to the epidemic of NDs. This is simply not true.
- U.S. children have been analyzed to compare those who received some mercury in their vaccines with those who received more mercury in their vaccines for the outcome of autism (not ADHD). The conclusion of the study was neutral, meaning a link could neither be confirmed nor denied. This study, conducted by the CDC, is the only study ever done using data of U.S. Children.
- Children in several European countries have been analyzed to compare those who received mercury in their shots with those who received no mercury in their shots for the outcome of autism. The conclusions of these studies was that no association was found, although these studies have been disputed. See www.putchildrenfirst.org for more details.
- Further, in 2006 the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, at the request of Senator Joseph Lieberman, issued this report which effectively conceded that both the CDC study of U.S. children and the "Danish Studies" were of poor study design and not reliable in determining whether or not Thimerosal causes autism. As this article from UPI reporter Dan Olmsted noted following the report's release: "For three years, the CDC has used a study conducted on its own Vaccine Safety Datalink to reassure parents that mercury in vaccines does not cause autism. Now a panel of government-appointed experts says there are "serious problems" with exactly the approach the CDC took." Olmsted interviewed the Chairperson of the NIEHS Committee who was quoted as saying:
"It's an 'open question' whether anything about vaccines -- timing, dose, preservative -- is related to the rise in diagnoses [of autism]. Some studies are stronger than others. The Verstraeten [Pediatrics] study was an improvement on other studies including the two in Denmark, both of which had serious weaknesses in their designs that limit what we can learn from them."
- No studies have ever been done to compare ND rates of children who received vaccines with those who received no vaccines, which is what our survey accomplished. Moreover, no studies have ever explored a link between vaccines and ADHD, despite the fact that 1 in 13 U.S. children have this diagnosis (versus 1 in 150 for autism).
- Even the Institute of Medicine, which is often cited in the media for issuing a 2004 report refuting the relationship between mercury and autism, held a 2007 workshop on "autism and the environment" that featured "presentations and discussions on strategies for research focusing on the potential relationship between autism and an array of environmental exposures."
The glaring absence of a study to compare vaccinated and unvaccinated children for ND rates caused Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) to introduce this bill to compel the National Institutes of Health to do such a study.
The question of whether or not vaccines have played and role in the epidemic of neurological disorders is an explosive topic with many passionate voices on both sides of the debate. Our survey results will most assuredly be challenged and criticized. Some of the more likely challenges (and our responses) include:
Criticism: Parents who do not vaccinate their children are less likely to seek an ND diagnosis, which explains the difference in prevalence you found.
Response: We think the data disproves this, because we found no meaningful difference in prevalence for NDs between vaccinated and unvaccinated girls. If this was simply an issue of parent behavior, the girls would have shown wide discrepancies in prevalence, too, and they did not.
It's also interesting to consider a study completed by the CDC and published in Pediatrics, Children Who Have Received No Vaccines: Who Are They and Where Do They Live? The study noted:
"Unvaccinated children tended to be white, to have a mother who was married and had a college degree, to live in a household with an annual income exceeding $75,000, and to have parents who expressed concerns regarding the safety of vaccines and indicated that medical doctors have little influence over vaccination decisions for their children."
And, it continues:
"Why do some parents avoid vaccinating their children? Our results indicate that parents of unvaccinated children are much more concerned about vaccine safety than are parents whose children receive Your browser may not support display of this image.1 vaccine dose. In a survey of parent's beliefs and practices regarding vaccinations and autism, siblings in families in which there was an autistic child were 3 times more likely to be unvaccinated, compared with siblings in families in which there was a child with attention-deficit/
Criticism: The ratio of diagnosed to undiagnosed children in this survey may be too high, indicating a potential response bias.
Response: The survey does not attempt to newly establish the prevalence of autism in the general population. The survey attempts only to shed preliminary light on any relationship between vaccination status and diagnosis. It is not surprising and not unexpected that parents with children who have received a diagnosis may have been more willing to complete the health battery included in this survey than parents of children who have not been diagnosed. However, that does not make the parents who did participate in this study likely to lie about, or forget about, the vaccination status of their children. The only way a possible "response bias" in favor of those households with a diagnosed child would invalidate the results of this research is if asking about vaccination status of a child independently produced a bias and that bias interacted with the bias caused by asking about NDs. For the concern to be valid: somehow, the main group of vaccinated families would have to be more likely to respond if there was an ND in the family, without also affecting the response of unvaccinated families in the same way. While such an interaction is possible, this criticism can be addressed by further, more elaborate research. Such a potential interaction does not invalidate this research.
It's also worth considering that if there was response bias, we should have received a disproportionate share of our responses from parents of boys, who represent 80% of NDs, and we did not. Boys were 51.9% of responses and girls were 48.1%. (We hope there was some response bias, because our numbers show a prevalence of autism of 1 in 43, far higher than the CDC's reported number of 1 in 150.)
Criticism: Parent responses is not a reliable way to gauge either a child's diagnosis or whether or not a child has been vaccinated.
Response: We would point to our "Methodology" section above and cite the CDC, who also uses a parent phone survey to gauge prevalence of NDs in children. We generally mimicked their approach.
Why hasn't a larger scale study comparing ND rates of vaccinated and unvaccinated children already taken place? We don't know. We credit Dan Olmsted, a reporter for United Press International, with giving us the idea to do this study. At a press conference in the summer of 2005, Mr. Olmsted had a chance to ask Julie Gerberding, the Director of the CDC, a simple question. Mr. Olmsted asked:
"Has the government ever looked at the autism rate in an unvaccinated U.S. population, and if not, why not?"
Ms. Gerberding's answer:
"In this country, we have very high levels of vaccination as you probably know, and I think this year we have record immunization levels among all of our children, so to (select an unvaccinated group) that on a population basis would be representative to look at incidence in that population compared to the other population would be something that could be done.
But as we're learning, just trying to look at autism in a community the size of Atlanta, it's very, very difficult to get an effective numerator and denominator to get a reliable diagnosis.
I think those kind of studies could be done and should be done. You'd have to adjust for the strong genetic component that also distinguishes, for example, people in Amish communities who may elect not to be immunized (and) also have genetic connectivity that would make them different from populations that are in other sectors of the United States. So drawing some conclusions from them would be very difficult.
I think with reference to the timing of all of this, good science does take time, and it's part of one of the messages I feel like I've learned from the feedback that we've gotten from parents groups this summer (in) struggling with developing a more robust and a faster research agenda, is let's speed this up. Let's look for the early studies that could give us at least some hypotheses to test and evaluate and get information flowing through the research pipeline as quickly as we can.
So we are committed to doing that, and as I mentioned, in terms of just measuring the frequency of autism in the population some pretty big steps have been taken. We're careful not to jump ahead of our data, but we think we will be able to provide more accurate information in the next year or so than we've been able to do up to this point. And I know that is our responsibility.
We've also benefited from some increased investments in these areas that have allowed us to do this, and so we thank Congress and we thank the administration for supporting those investments, not just at CDC but also at NIH and FDA."
Is Ms. Gerberding genuinely interested in getting an answer? We will let the reader decide.
June 26, 2007
Since you offer absolutely no empirical proof for your claim that vaccines for polio caused its eradication, let me offer you proof that your claim is incorrect and baseless.
Columbia University Polio Timeline
N.B. the following quote:
Once the Sabin and Salk vaccines were proven effective, the disease was rapidly eradicated throughout most of the industrialized world. The economic effect has been enormous; it has been calculated that the polio vaccine pays for the costs of its development approximately every three weeks. The benefit to the United States alone for this single breakthrough runs into the trillions of dollars. The social impact has been incalculable. The crutches, wheelchairs, and iron lungs of polio victims have at last been banished from children's and parents' nightmares, at least in the developed world.
Recently, the World Health Organization embarked on a campaign for the worldwide eradication of polio. If this plan is completed successfully, it will conclude the second deliberate destruction of a virus by humans, and stand as the final victory in Roosevelt's other war.
It really annoys me when people shout out things as "fact" that are unsubstantiated and trumpeted as continuing rumors around the Internet.
Please check out this web site! Also I am 30 with no vaccines how on earth have I survived?????
To anonymous above:
You watched them become autistic? Before your very eyes? You saw the doctor insert the needle and Poof! They transformed?
I somehow doubt it.
If what you say is true with regard to the older children, how do you explain that in light of the modification to the immunization to eliminate thimerosol? And how do you explain autism that emerges in families before these vaccinations were even available?
I don't count on my daughter avoiding the diseases due to herd immunity. I count on my daughter having a strong, effective immune system due to a healthy diet full of vitamin-rich fruits and vegetables, lean meats, and lots of fiber. I also make sure she only drinks water. I also make sure she is well-rested. I also make sure she's not exposed to too much stress in her life. I make sure she washes her hands frequently and doesn't put dirty things in her mouth. She doesn't share water bottles or food with other people. And when sickness is rumored, we supplement her diet with vitamin C, echinacea, and zinc, all of which naturally boost the immune system.
All in all, my daughter has been sick a small handful of times in her life, and none of her illnesses were any worse than a mild flu. I'm interested to have a RAST test done when she hits puberty to see what illnesses she's been exposed to and received natural life-long immunity to. It's not as cut-and-dry as herd immunity. If it were, there wouldn't be measles or mumps outbreaks.
During my childhood, families were being devasted by polio, and children were dying (yes, dying) of measles. In the 1950's, the US Public Health Department didn't give you a choice...you were vaccinated. Now, you do have a choice, so please make it wisely.
In the end, people will believe what they are going to believe. All of the scientific proof in the world will not change the path of stubborn people. May your life's journey be safe, your exposures cursory, and your luck, good.
Illness and death have developed throught history because of human "Progress" and unclean unhealthy conditions.
I don't see how sheeps blood cells, ether, mercury,antifreeze and aluminum could possibly be healthy....
I think that is a fantastic idea! We can talk about the vast difference in nutrition, sanitary water supplies, and available medical knowledge in subSaharan Africa, as well as the much lower Autism rate. I'll even let my child kiss *gasp* one of the little African children.
The medical community is so quick to dismiss natural as lesser and ignorant, but in so many areas, Western medicinal knowledge seems to be taking a brutal beating (obstetrical care, infant nutritional knowledge, etc). Why is it so hard to believe that the vast majority of non-vaccinating parents boast of extremely healthy children, nary a runny nose. Why isn't anyone even taking the time to explore the *remote* possibility that these mothers aren't lying when they say they saw overnight changes in their children after a vaccination?
Good luck to you, in your life, as well, Doc. For when the other shoe drops, and something is conclusively proven to support a more natural approach, I hope you can live with your conscience.
FOr a long time Immunizations have been a natural factor......U have a baby you rise them you get their shots, believing they're safe efficient ect.
Yet now days its because a very big debate. Why because most ppl are starting to find out hey are all these vaccines needed; they are also starting to find out that they are truley not proven to work and that they are not proven effective in any means.
If so many ppl out there still vaccinate anyways then why are so many children still dieing, still becoming autistic and mentally retarded and still getting these diseases they are suppose to be protected against.
Most of the disease they vax for are from very long ago and we in the USA dont have a problem with.
YOU dont have to be an MD to know whats best for your child, and for those mothers out there who think that a doc knows everything that is best for your child expecally when they tell you Vaccines are safe and effective then that mother really needs to get her head out of her A$$ and view reality!!
Vaccines go straight to your blood stream where as Pesticides you can wash off with soap and water just like u clean your dishes.
What we should be pushing is education for parents to make an EDUCATED and UN-BIASED decision for their own children's health. If no one can mandate what a woman can do with her body, then how can it be mandated what parents must do with their children's bodies? No one but the parents are ultimately going to be left with the consequenses and responsibility of either choice--they alone should have the right to make it.
Yes, there are plenty of vaccinated children that have had no adverse or long term reactions or damage. But the same is true on the other side. I have done years of research for myself concerning my own children and because of that, have chosen not to vaccinate them (3). I don't regret or question my decision at all. My kids haven't had more than the 24 hour flu in the 10 1/2 years i've had them. No ear infections, asthma, allergies of any kind, nothing. I do strongly believe in the new evidence and studies saying that vaccines could be, and in some cases, likely are, at fault for health problems in kids. I will not say vaccines are evil, but I think it's irresponsible to label them as 100% safe and to not encourage parents to be as active as possible in the decisions regarding their children's healthcare.
What scares me the most about these comments is the belief on the part of some of you that because these diseases don't have outbreaks as frequently, there's no need to vaccinate against them.
There IS a cause and effect in place, but it's not autism/vaccines; it's vaccines/less disease. You're arrogant if you think otherwise.
Autism isn't a death sentance! I have lead a very good life, and am very high functioning. You wouldn't guess that I am autistic- if you saw me. But I am!
Just like salt if u eat to much it can kill you like at one sitting anyways.
Its not just the Mercury in the vaccines its all the other crap. Besides i don't see a baby eating tuna anyway
How nice it must be for you not to have to worry about your child coming down with something that needs to be treated quickly? What about all of the kids that don't have access to good or prompt care and vaccinations are the only preventative medicine they get? Vaccines are 100% effective so what if the vaccine is not effective in these less well off, unable to afford organic, vitamin rich food kids, and your carrier kid comes along and infects them? Then they don't get care until it is too late and they are left dead or permanently impaired? Oh well, at least your kid had his grass smoothie and is going to make it. Maybe this isn't realistic because your kid never interacts with somebody that doesn't have the resources to get good care promptly.
LOL you dont even know how wrong you are.
Vaccines are not good care. If they were so effective then why the autism, why so many crib deaths that docs just write off as SIDS to save there asses!!!
My kids have had all vaccines except for chicken pox. It wasn't available until after they had had chicken pox. I have two very intelligent, honor student children and both have learning disabilities. My son is dyslexic and my daughter has a very mild form of autism and hyper-activity. I don't blame any of this on the vaccines. I feel it is genetic. ADHD is prevelant in my family and the form of autism my daughter has is seen on my husband's side.
I have also seen what happens when a vaccine loses its efficacy. My son contracted whooping cough when he was 17. No, this wasn't a killer disease in a teenager, but; the coughing and vomitting were awful and it lasted for 6 weeks. So when my daughter's doctor suggested giving her a booster vaccine for whooping cough, I was all for it. I did not want her to go through what her brother did.
I know that I will not sway anyone's opinion, but I thought I would give you my experience with vaccines.
Where as us parents who don't vaccinate such as myself, have done plenty of research to back up an argument. But people,some anyways are to hard headed and don't even take into consideration that maybe us non vaxers are not wrong. I've been doing research for over 2 yrs now about them. I'm still debating on weather to give my daughter the polio shot and tetanus shot. As of this moment probably not. Ik now my brother couldn't walk for 2 yrs after his MMR shot and i got extremely sick after i had mine after my daughter was born. A doc i see has 5 kids all older teens and adults are not at all vaccinated!! She never had a problem with them being sick either.
A friend of a friends baby died at 4 months 2 hrs after her shots, do u know how devastating that would be. IF you catch a disease of some sort there is always ways to take care of it!! U have to use common sence!
Doctors think that Drugs and Vaccines are the solution to every thing, when really most times it causes more harm then good
I think Vaccine your child expecially so early in life is just laziness so u don't have to take care of your child when they get sick.
The Vaccine Injury Compensation Trust Fund (Trust Fund) provides funding for the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) to compensate vaccine-related injury or death claims for covered vaccines administered on or after October 1, 1988. The Trust Fund is funded by a $0.75 excise tax on each dose of vaccine purchased (i.e., each disease prevented in a dose of vaccine). For example, the excise tax imposed on a dose of trivalent influenza vaccine is $0.75 because it prevents one disease, whereas the excise tax imposed on a dose of the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine is $2.25 because prevents three diseases. The taxable vaccines have also been recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) for routine administration to children.
The Department of Treasury collects the excise taxes, and oversees and manages the investing activities for the Trust Fund. As of January 31, 2007, the Trust Fund balance was nearly $2.5 billion. The Trust Fund monthly reports are available on the Treasury's Bureau of Public Debt Website.
Immunization Theory vs Reality by Niel z. Miller
The Truth About Vaccines by Dr Richard Halvorsen [(pub Gibson Square Publishing) order a copy for just £9.99, post free, contact the YOU Bookshop, tel: 0870 162 5006, you-bookshop.co.uk]
Vaccination The Hidden Facts by Ian Sinclair
Raising A Vaccine Free Child-Wendy Lydall
A Shot In The Dark-Harris L. Coulter & Barbara Loe Fisher
(Why the P in the DPT vaccination may be hazardous to your child's health)
The Sanctity Of Human Blood: Vaccination Is Not Immunization-Tim O'Shea
"Vaccination: A Thoughtful Parent's Guide to Childhood Immunizations" by Aviva Romm
"How to Raise a Healthy Child, In Spite of your Doctor" by Dr. Robert Mendelsohn
"Evidence of Harm" by David Kirby
"What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Childhood Immunizations" by Stephanie Cave
"Vaccinations: A Thoughtful Parent's Guide: How to Make Safe, Sensible Decisions about the Risks, Benefits, and Alternatives"
Natural Baby and Childcare by Lauren Feder, M.D.
Lots Of Links:
Here's a link (youtube) to a series of lectures on the Polio vaccine by Dr.Sherri Tenpenny. Admin. highly recommends them:
National Vaccine Injury Compensation Fund
Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
HRSA - National Vaccine Injury Compensation Stats
This one is all abut making an informed choice
This one's pretty good and written by a Dr.;
Alternative Health info
and a number u can call to
1) More artificial colors/flavorings/chemicals in processed foods
2) Nuclear fallout from the bombs dropped in WWII and subsequent testing
3) Pollution of our natural resources; particularly the air;
4) Drug and alcohol use by one parent or the other in their youth, even if they didn't touch the stuff in adulthood
Yet the one to blame is the vaccine for some reason.
And to person who hypothesized that the reason parents want to vaccinate their kids is because they're too lazy to take care of them when they're sick, just know that you will never win anyone over to your way of thinking with that kind of invitation for them to even consider it. In fact, you really undid whatever shreds of credibility some of the others had built by being more polite.
Children dieing after vaccinations is inexcusable! No person shold die from something that is suppose to protect them. Therefore being they are not safe in most cases.
The reason i said parents are just lazy by vaxing is because look at it this way.....
People vax so their child dosn't get a disease, in which most of them are curable if you care for that child properly, just like a cold if you don't take care of your child right it can change into ammonia and if still not cared for properly die from it!!
Therefore....by vaxing and knowing the outcome it might have....its lazy to vax, because it just shows that a child who gets somthing, the mothers dose not want to spend the time to fully take care of them, they figure that by vaxing will make everything easyier.
Its hard to say in words what especially I mean, so i hope this came out better
Thats not including all the ppl who have already sued because of their child being damaged or dieing
So if you knew that by telling that lie with one thing that u could make that much,so wouldn't you, of course because Money =greed and most ppl would not care what they had to do to get it!
Being so if the CDC or whatever dose their calculations about thier product, Vaccines, don't you think that they will tell any amount of lies to get your child vaccinated! Hell ya! And the more of those products they make the more money the feel they will be making no matter what they have to do to make it they will sure dam try!
Especially all of these new Vaccines like Gardilsil for instance its suppose to keep young age girls from getting cervical cancer.....IT HAS NEVER BEEN TESTED PERIOD!!! killed alot of girls to! its also 300.00 a shot and u get 3 of them thats 900.00 for that vaccine. There is no cure for cancer, so if they cant find a cure for cancer why all of sudden they come up with something they say will stop a girl/woman from getting it!! Because its expensive and they know if they say it will work then people will believe them, at least alot of people anyways
Before you think that I am a doctor, the answer is no. But I have a very good friend that is. Doctors think like scientist and until they are shown evidence of a link in a respected medical journal, most will not believe there is a link. I think it's time we stop blaming doctors.
I would also like to say that I am not a lazy parent. I vaccinated my children because I felt it was best for them. I have always worked full-time and they were always in daycare. I wanted to protect them from these diseases and I felt vaccinations were the best way. However, when they were sick; I was always there for them. I saw my daughter through countless ear infections and was up at night with my 17 year old son when he had whooping cough. I was also arguing with his doctors that he had whooping cough. They wouldn't believe me because they never heard the whoop in the cough. He lost 10 lbs during that illness and it took him 2 years to gain it back. I understand why people choose not to vaccinate, but to call us that choose to vaccinate lazy is just plain rude.
If the actual number is growing but the percentage is staying about the same, then is there really a problem? Of course the actual number would be growing, the population is growing.
However, if both the actual number and the percentage are growing then there is a problem and it is worthwhile to find the cause.
My son just started college this year and he decided on his own to get the menengitis vaccination. He read up on it and decided it was an illness that he did not want to get.
IF your child gets a disease u can take care of them just like if they were to get the flu or cold! And after they get better then all is well their bodies were able to fight off the infection and build a NATURAL IMMUNITY TO IT
2. Two or more children in one family are diagnosed with Autism. Only the oldest was vaccinated. Thus familiar.
3. Autopsy results. Children have increased/rapid brain growth after 18 mos. The nerves (brain) are quite "tangled" in children diagnosed with Autism.
1. The CDC is not a business. They do not profit from children getting vaccinated.
2. Many doctors prescribe generic drugs whenever possible to save their patients money. There is no way they could get kick backs from the drug companies. People that believe this watch too much television.
3. The only people that profit from the dispensing of vaccines is the manufacturer.
Let's stop thinking there is some terrible conspiracy between doctors and drug makers to get our children vaccinated. It just doesn't work that way.
Every time you post a comment with the word 'duh' in it I lose any interest in what you have to say. If you want me to hear you, stop being so incredibly sanctimonious and start talking TO me and others instead of AT us.
I mean, like...duh!
The doctor I work for works his BUTT of to get kids healthy and he drives a 10 yr old car because he can't afford anything nicer...
My doctor barely breaks even with every shot he gives-he doesn't make ANY money off of giving shots...
My doctor helps people, so give them more respect!
I dont know what causes autism.....but, I can't help to wonder!
The only reason i use DUH in some of my comments on this page is because a lot of people are just so frickin ignorant it irritates the hell out of me.
It doesn't matter if vaccines aren't the cause of autism(more then likely yes they are) But if the dam things were safe then babies who get them, die, get very sick, autism, learning disorders,ect.
I'm a photographer, and i see so many children whom are vaccinated, who don't talk, walk, who are autistic, and very mentally slow.
I choose not to vaccinate my daughter, not because of autism since it strikes boys more often then girls, but because there are to many brain altering ingredients as well as poisons in the vaccines.
Maybe that doctor is broke cause he doesn't sell enough vaccines to his patients!!!
IF vaccines weren't profit, then why are doctors writting off everything that has to do with a child dieing after a vaccination, as SIDS, also why are doctors hiding the fact that children are dieing or becoming damaged in some way, away from the public?......Cause they don't want to scare us with the truth, they rather keep us calm with their lies, by to keep vaccinating our children, not telling us whats really going on. IF this all had nothing to do with money, why all the lies why all the secrets.
Because they want people to still keep vaccinating anyways no matter who they hurt, they move to the next.
Not only are they making money off of vaccines(the vaccine makers that is) but also off of the care needed for autistic children who need special doctors and their care. Which is about $5,000.00 a month depending on where u live.
And I'm sorry but i don't respect doctors at all, i don't like them and i stay away from there as much as possible!! I especially don't like the doctors whom you tell them whats going on and they look at you sand say oh u have this now go take this and u will feel better when in all reality, the medication was for something else, they never did any blood work or tests, they just write you a prescription and let u go
MAM if u r going to get your newb shots wait untill he/she is 2 or older and get single doseage not the 3 in one that way if the baby as a raction u know which one was the cause of it for sure.
Doctors tell you that cant do single ones (cause it cost alot) bud demand it!!! As of now probably not but if i do decide to give shots to child it will be selectively and singly.
I see a doctor, well talk to this doctor that has 5 kids and never vaxed they are all in their teens, and older they are all smart and have never been sick with something besides maybe a flu and cold.
Did you know that an incredibly amount of 600,000 children a YEAR yes a year!!! Die or become damaged from vaccines.
I swear some of the ppl on here the way they talk on how good vaccines and what they dont cause, i wonder if a doctor were to tell them Crack cocaine was good for their child then they would give it to them!!!
By Joanne Laurier
10 December 2002
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The Bush administration asked a federal claims court on November 26 to seal documents relating to hundreds of cases of autism allegedly caused by a mercury-based preservative, thimerosal, used in childhood vaccines.
The government's legal action comes on the heels of an insertion into the Homeland Security bill that protects Eli Lilly, the drug company giant that developed thimerosal, from lawsuits involving the additive. The bill removes all liability from the pharmaceutical industry and health officials for the injuries and death resulting from the preservative.
The connections between the Bush administration and the pharmaceutical company are extensive. Eli Lilly's chairman and CEO, Sidney Taurel, was recently given a seat on the president's Advisory Council on Homeland Security and Mitch Daniels, former president of Lilly's North American operations, is currently the White House budget director. Former president George Bush sat on Eli Lilly's board of directors.
In asking for the documents to be sealed November 26, Department of Justice (DOJ) lawyers asked a special master in the US Court of Federal Claims for a protective order on behalf of Tommy G. Thompson, the secretary of Health and Human Services, whose department administers a government fund to compensate people injured by vaccines. DOJ lawyers claim that the law creating the fund gives the secretary jurisdiction over which information is released and they argue that automatic disclosure of the documents would take away that right. The claims are being heard by Special Master George Hastings in a 'vaccine court'—part of the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVIC)—that was created in 1986, when the government fund was established.
The vaccine court was set up to speed compensation claims and help protect vaccine makers from having to pay large punitive awards decided by juries in state civil courts. Claims must be filed within three years of a child's first symptoms (autism, however, is typically not diagnosed until 18 months after the first symptoms appear) and the program grants a maximum of $250,000 for proof of injury—a sum considerably lower than the typical award for autism in a state court. It also takes four to five years to reach a decision under NVIC, according to Portland lawyer Mike Williams, who represents hundreds of families in suits against the pharmaceutical companies.
The court is currently hearing approximately 1,100 claims brought by the families of autistic children, who claim that thimerosal has caused autism and other neurological disorders in children.
The request by the Bush administration would prevent plaintiffs who later go to civil court from using evidence gathered during the required vaccine court proceedings.
"There is no secret here. What the petitioners are arguing for are enhanced rights in a subsequent civil action," complained Justice Department attorney Vincent Matanoski to Reuters Health.
The order, which amounts to punishing of the families of injured children, will require that plaintiffs incur the time and expense of regenerating evidence in a civil suit.
"The vaccine program is a public health program—every child has to get inoculated," Sallie Bernard of the parental advocacy group Safe Minds told the WSWS. "Therefore the public has the right to know every aspect of the program."
Mercury-based thimerosal was added to vaccines to safeguard against production-related contamination. The Federal Drug Administration began urging vaccine makers to eliminate the substance in mid-1999, as did the Public Health Service and the American Academy of Pediatrics. The World Health Organization still defends thimerosal, which is currently being manufactured in vaccines sent to the underdeveloped countries. Thimerosal helps vaccines survive dirty storage conditions and allows for cheaper packaging in multi-dose bottles, as opposed to single-dose vials.
In 1999 the Institute of Medicine, an associated organization of the National Academy of Sciences, concluded that the evidence was "inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between thimerosal exposures from childhood vaccines and the neurodevelopmental disorders of autism" and other problems, but added, "However, data on mercury toxicity more generally suggests that the hypothesis is biologically plausible."
In the midst of the heated response by advocacy groups and law firms involved with the thimerosal controversy to the DOJ's attempt to seal documents, a study was published November 30 in the British medical journal The Lancet. Its findings claimed that infants who received vaccines containing thimerosal had levels of mercury in their blood that were within the federal safety limits. The study examined 33 infants from two to six months who were injected with thimerosal-laced vaccines and 15 infants that were administered mercury-free vaccines.
Sallie Bernard of Safe Minds commented on the report: "Thirty-three blood draws cannot do justice to a known neurotoxin. One major shortcoming of a small sample size is the low chance of including infants who are especially sensitive to mercury's effects, or who may have detoxification difficulties. The blood was not drawn at peak levels, and the samples were not randomly drawn, but were convenience samples and therefore not representative of all infants in terms of health status, socioeconomic status, ethnicity and other potentially important factors. Also the amount of the dosage used in the study was considerably less that the typical dosage administered throughout the 1990s."
"This study is an example of the fact that as yet there has not been enough time or resources allocated to complete much-needed, genuine investigations," stated Bernard, who expressed alarm at the prominence The Lancet had given to the finding.
She further questioned the objectivity of the study's author, Dr. Michael E. Pichichero of the University of Rochester, who has extensive ties to the vaccine manufacturers. In a disclosure statement for an article in the American Academy of Family Physicians newsletter of April 2000, Pichichero admits to receiving research grants and/or honoraria from Abbot Laboratories, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Eli Lilly, Merck, Pfizer Labs, Roche, among a host of others. Pichichero's work has been cited in 21 vaccine patent applications. Bernard pointed out that the University of Rochester web site describes Dr. Pichichero as an immunologist, not a toxicologist.
Thimerosal came under scrutiny due to the dramatic rise in autism throughout the 1990s. Early on in the decade several new thimerosal-based vaccines were added to the standard childhood schedule, leading to an augmentation of two to three times the doses of multiple vaccines. According to the Federal Drug Administration's (FDA) web site, prior to the recent initiatives by the agency to reduce or eliminate thimerosal from vaccines, the maximum cumulative exposure to mercury via routine childhood vaccinations during the first six months of life was 187.5 micrograms. The FDA states that "an exposure to more than 62.5 micrograms within the first three months of life significantly increases a child's risk of developing autism." An FDA review conducted in 1998 revealed that children who had received the full complement of childhood vaccines were potentially exposed to mercury levels 30 to 50 times the acceptable levels established by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).
The number of children who have been affected by autism leaped from 1 in 2,000 in 1970 to 1 in 250 in 2000. (The National Vaccine Information Center reports clusters in areas of New Jersey and California of 1 in 150). Concurrently, the number of children diagnosed with learning disabilities has now reached 1 in 5.
Another Safe Minds advocate, Lyn Redwood, a nurse practitioner whose husband is a physician, told the WSWS the story of her son Will. "He was normal until his second year of life. He then began to regress—he lost speech, eye contact and became withdrawn and despondent." When Will was diagnosed with autism she began investigating her son's quantity of mercury exposure and discovered it was 125 times the allowed level. It is her belief that Will suffered from delayed neurotoxicity which led to the onset of autism.
"In the early 1990s, two new vaccines were added to the vaccine protocol for the first six months of life. I believe that caused what we see now as an epidemic of autism in children. You can see that most clearly in California, the state with the best tracking records," said Ms. Redwood. California recorded an increase of 273 percent between 1987 and 1998 in the number of children entering the California development services system with a professional diagnosis of autism, according to the California Department of Developmental Services.
She continued: "The Homeland Security Bill has now moved all cases to the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Act, which has a three year limitation. My case was in the batch of 1,000 cases, but the statute of limitation has closed the door on us and also the majority of parents who remain unaware of the statute."
The Houston-based law firm of Waters & Kraus filed the first known lawsuit alleging thimerosal's connection to autism. The firm is leading a consortium of 10 firms nationwide that are actively prosecuting cases of this nature.
The lead attorney for the consortium, Andy Waters, obtained through Safe Minds an unreleased confidential report by scientists of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) which states: "As for the exposure evaluated at 3 months of age, we found increasing risks of 'neurological developmental disorders' with the increasing cumulative exposure to thimerosal ... within the group of 'developmental disorders' ... for the subgroup called 'specific delays,' and within this subgroup for the specific disorder 'developmental speech disorder,' and for 'autism' 'stuttering' and 'attention deficit disorder.'"
Mr. Waters told the WSWS: "It defies coincidence between double the vaccines and the dramatic upsurge in autism. But this should come as no surprise, given that the government and its allies are in control of public policy. Eli Lilly gave more money to the Republican campaign than any other pharmaceutical company in an industry that gave $20-40 million. The DOJ and the administration are owned by the pharmaceutical companies. They want to seal the files to prevent proving the case against these companies. [Attorney General John] Ashcroft is owned by the industry and the Democrats are waffling all over the place, so the administration's move comes as no real surprise."
"With the cases sealed, Eli Lilly will move for a dismissal and all my cases are filed against Eli Lilly," Waters continued. "This will be a long battle against people who have all the resources and motivation. They control the pier-reviewed medical and scientific journals and all the research money. It will be a long and difficult fight."
Waters added that "no amount of money can give these children back the potential that they were born with, and no amount of money will comfort the parents that watched helplessly as their children literally just slipped away."
It's time you learned how little doctors actually make from giving vaccinations.
doctor's may not profit that much but they sure help out the manufacturer to profit. There all in it together!
The doctors just bring in the ginnipigs(no children are not ginninpigs) doctors just use children like ginnipigs! to test unproven to work vaccines!!!
There also seems to be direct coloration between the "believers" and the inability to spell, use correct grammar, and/or create individual thoughts. ...Nearly every post in favor of the link between autism and vaccines has been copied and pasted from the internet (do you guys even know what they say?).
...I think I'll stay on the side that promotes critical thinking, thank you very much.
My 1 yr. old daughter is due for her MMR shot. I've heard about the possibility of autism being associated with this shot, so I came here for some research.
The information is overwhelming to say the least. First, I don't think it was fair of those of you who "attacked" the doctor for the information in his article. That was unnecessary and uncalled for. You can have a difference of opinion without being nasty about it.
But I do have a question for the doctor if he would be so kind as to humor me with an answer.
Why is it, that any time I ask my daughter's Pediatrician questions about immunizations or any other condition that I've brought her in for; I am treated as if I have a 5th grade education and that I should NEVER dare to question her doctor's authority?
Of course, I do realize that you can not speak on her behalf, but she is not alone in this instance. As you can see, many parents have had trouble receiving information from their child's pediatrician on this issue. We have no choice but to do our own research. Unfortunately our only resource IS the internet and it is our job to decifier what is true and what is false.
May I suggest to the medical community that you take a moment to better educate your patients and/or their parents about immunizations and what the true pros and cons are. Give them both sides of the story. Give them the option to think about and decide what is best for their child according to their beliefs.
I can't say that I blame those who believe that doctors push immunizations b/c they get "paid" to do it. And that drug companies buy them expensive things to do so. I guess that is a perk of being a doctor, but please do not scold the public for having a negative association with immunization and Autism if the Medical community will not take the time and effort to educate us.
JM, Canton, Georgia
This is clearly a controversial issue and as a parent I want all of the FACTS, not anecdotal stories. Let's have an accurate and civil debate, so that parents and doctors can make the best decisions for our children.
Rudeness is the weak person's imitation of strength.
I know that many people that have commented believe that doctors are in some conspiracy with the drug companies. If you really know your doctor then you know this isn't true. I know there are doctors that are talk down to their patients, but the majority of them are very caring and work 60 hours a week to make sure that we stay healthy. They are not sitting back at the end of the day and laughing because they got more parents to believe their children need to be vaccinated.
I have a few friends that are doctors and I have never known them to take trips that are paid for by drug companies. One of them works for a medical group that does not accept samples from the drug companies just to prevent them from looking like the work with the drup companies.
I know that I will bring over the conspiracy people to this way of thinking. But, I just had to fight for the doctors who are basing their opinions on the best data available to them.
I live in Jackson County, OR, where one of the studies mentioned above was done. There is a high number of unvaccinated children here, and it's been met with some pretty serious consequences, including an outbreak of Whooping Cough.
My nephew, at less then a month old, was exposed to Whooping Cough before he could be vaccinated by a teen who was UNvaccinated. The effects were devastating: for two days he was on life support. They called in a priest to do last rights. By some miracle, he survived, but he was in the hospital for two months. When he came home, he was still using humidifiors, and his lungs are now permanantly damaged.
What a horrific experience for my sister and our family! Needless to say, I'm going to be vaccinating my own children, and I won't be allowing ANY outsiders into my home with my newborn.
I know anti-vaccinators do so because they think they're doing right by their kids, but the fact remains that these diseases have NOT been eradicated, and can still cause needless pain and suffering.
I think the doctor's reaction probably comes out of frustration. There is no scientific evidence linking vaccinations and thimerosol, study after study is published with that conclusion, yet the linkage is still there. As doctors, they feel strongly about the value of vaccines, and I have to believe that every time they're confronted with this question the frustration grows.
They know and have seen the harm of not vaccinating, and aren't seeing evidence of a direct link to autism, but the rumor persists. Since they known and have seen what can happen to unvaccinated children, I think they're probably as passionate about it as the ones who argue vaccines as the culprit. The passion/frustration could easily manifest itself the way you describe.
If u do your research its all common sense
Also you have to ask yourself this question...If the CDC really did find out that thimerosal is linked to autism, do you think they would release that information to the public and admit that they encouraged people to give their kids vaccinations that led to them developing autism? Do you think that the government would want to deal with the widespread panic that would result from them admitting such a thing? People would stop vaccinating their children if the link was ever proven and admitted. From the government standpoint its more effective to take a chance with our health than admit that they probably don't know for sure if its safe or not.
My kids are very sensitive to preservatives, artifical colours, etc. They have already had their early vaccinations but I will absolutely not get them flu shots because some of them still have thimerosal.
They still make vaccines with the Thimrsoal in it and over 600,000 children a year die or become damaged from them, yet they don't try to fix that problem now do they!! No they just keep making more and more and more of them with the same dam ingredients in them.
The CDC is a not-for-profit entity. Government agencies are not profit centers. That's kind of like saying the World Health Organization fights the bird flu to profit from the cure.
I don't think so.
They come to us pure and given everything they need to survive if given the proper nutrition and love. Start throwing all of these carcinogens at an immune system that is only days old and see what happens? No one will ever convince me that this can be good. We are killing our children and the doctors know it - they have studies that prove it! I believe we all have a choice about what we put into our childrens bodies and as parents we need to educate ourselves! we aren't going to be educatied by the medical profession-that has been proven. A recent statistic that I came across is that 1 in 100 vaccines cause side effect. Only 10% of adverse side effects are reported after a vaccine. So, if only 1 in 10 problems is reported and the ratio is still 1 in 100, considering all of the 10's of thousands of shots given in one day-that is a very scary stat! Some may say "OK I can live with 1 out of 100 chance just to vaccinate my child" but what if your child is #100.
Everyone is so concerned about the ingredients in vaccines, but the amount that is injected is so very small when you compare it to the amount of bad things we eat. If you are so concerned about your children, then maybe you shouldn't feed them fast food, frozen food or anything with preservatives or artificial flavor or sweeteners. It may be the rise in processed foods that is causing the rise in autism.
I am just pointing out another possibility. Just because a child changes soon after receiving a vaccine doesn't mean the vaccine is the cause. That's like saying that whenever you wear your favorite T-shirt, good things happen, so the T-shirt must be lucky. One doesn't necessarily lead to the other. It could be just a coincidence.
Doctors are not lying to you and they are not profitting from vaccinating your child. They are doing what they believe is in your child's best interest.
I did remove preservatives and artifical colors from my kids diets. Thats how I KNOW that it makes a difference and thats why I don't want garbage injected directly into my childrens bloodstreams.
If they had a vaccine with only a small amount of arsenic, you'd take it, right---because its only a small amount? Of course not! So why would you want mercury injected into your body?
And actually, doctors do profit from vaccinating children. They don't do it for free, now do they? I'm sure they believe its the best thing, but a lot of us disagree.
I understand what you are saying about the foods we eat today, and I totally agree with you but-that is a totally different issue altogether. Good, informed choices need to be used all around. The fact remains that we are not injecting chicken nuggets and artificial sweeteners into our newborns, we are injecting cancer causing agents and heavy metals.
It takes most doctors 10 years to pay off their education loans. They work very hard to serve us and provide the best care possible. And it seems like all we can do is sue them whenever anything goes wrong and assume they are in some big conspiracy with the drug manufacturers. Doctors are people too. They are not super human and all knowing. People that have posted on this blog insist that doctors know that vaccines cause autism but refuse to admit it. But I wonder if they have any facts to back that up. I know they have information, but it doesn't mean that the doctors believe it.
I think that those of you who insist that doctors are getting rich off of their patients, should read the most current blogs by Dr. Ira Kirschenbaum on Mad about Medicine. He is doing a series about what doctors actually make and what they could make in a true free market. You might find it interesting. Of course, I know it won't change your mind.
I know it takes a lot of money and hard work to become a doctor. But for those who do become doctors, believe me, it does pay for itself. You don't see many ESTABLISHED doctors driving old clunker cars or living in bad neighborhoods. Most of the doctors that I know live in affluent communities and send their kids to the best schools. They take several vacations a year. And good for them, most of them earn it. But don't tell me that they are poor--I don't believe it.
And any doctor who pushes vaccinations is just another stupid sheep of the drug company's. If the British thought so much of the vaccinations why don't they start giving the shot's untill after the child is three years old, when they live closer to all the third world countries, where it is a higher risk of getting any of the diseases that are vaccinated for.
And how gullible do you have to be, to not know that doctors make money from giving these shots, if they did not pay they would not give them they would leave it up to the goverment, let's be real.
To the person who said that children in third world countries get autisum, at what rate we used to have a 1 in 2000 rate before vaccines, what about that.
I do feel sorry for the poor parents who say they better give their baby these shot's, because after they do and they lose the child like we did, or they come up with autism it is to late. Then they to will be doing all they can on these web sites to try and help the next parent avoid losing their child one way or another. Because after my first son died we never gave another child shot's and my oldest is now 24 and my youngest is 1 and they are healthy and no medical problems.
And to address the people who complain about the rudness of some of the posters, let's see how you talk after it's your kid, maybe then you will be aggravated with the stupid things people are saying while your trying to warn people. and keep them from felling your pain.
In response to Greg above, actually the local county government where I live does give vaccinations. When I say that doctors don't make money from the shots, what I actually mean is the profit margin is very, very small. Doctors are not getting flithy rich by vaccinating children. I actually have proof of this, however I have no way of posting it in the blog. I have seen the books of a local doctors office and know what they pay to get the vaccine and what the charge to give it. And what most insurance companies will reimburse. The resulting profit is small. Do you have actual proof that doctors are working in a conspiracy with drug manufactures to push vaccinations? Because if you did, I'm sure the federal government would like to know. Such a conspiracy violates federal anti-trust regulations.
I am not totally sold that vaccines are 100% safe, but I do believe that doctors believe what they tell their patients. And I do know what it is like to have a child with autism. However, I am a lucky parent; my daughter's autism is mild.
I often wonder if we are getting better at diagnosing the varying degrees of autism and that's part of the reason why the number of children with autism is rising.
I also wonder how the children that are not vaccinated receive an education. Are they home schooled? I know in Illinois, you cannot attend a public school without proof of vaccinations or a medical reason for not having them.
It has also been shown, in some autistic children that allergies to cow's milk and to wheat also contribute to autism. When do most children come off the bottle? How many colicky infants display signs of austism. My nephew, as an infant was colicky. My brother and sister-in-law placed him on the expensive soy formula. Through his toddler years, my mother, a nurse practioner, was highly concerned because of the signs he was exhibiting. He still has issues today as robust 5 year old. He still does not drink cow's milk.
What if it is combonation of vaccine and allergy? What if the vaccine causes the allergy?
I suggest for those who will, a look at http://www.autism.com/
No one in my family is austic. Why should Rain Man have to be in an institution when there is a possibility he could be healed?
It's amazing to me that this discussion has gone from "vaccines don't cause autism", to "yes, yes they do cause autism because I know so in my gut despite study after study to the contrary" to "autism can be cured."
The saddest part to me is that those of you who claim vaccines to be the culprit seem also not to be accepting of the fact that your child is autistic -- it's a "horrible thing" that others should be "saved from".
If you are putting half the energy into your kid that you are trying to claim the vax/autism link, good for you. If you're not, maybe you should consider accepting him/her as they are and working toward helping them, rather than blaming others.
If that connection really did exist and there really was such a conspiracy, then I am sure the Federal Government would be all over it. Such a conspiracy is against the anit-trust laws of this country and if it really did exist it would be BIG news.
If you really want to do something to stop the requirement of vaccinations, then contact your congressman and senator. These are the people who are in with the lobbyist of the big drug manufacturers and they are the ones who would lose money if they did not promote what their backers wanted.
Let's bring the fight about vaccinations to congress and get the laws changed. Then getting your children vaccinated will truly be optional and we can see what will happen to the once erradicated diseases.
The basis of the frustration, Sir, over these "wrong" theories is probably that they spread so much to begin with. Because that would be a clear and serious indication that people just don't trust doctors anymore. We are tired of them blowing off our parental intuitions. We are not ignorant...if the medical community, the governemnt, or the drug companies truly showed effort over eliminating this epidemic (oh and this is an epidemic...even the cdc concedes that there is not truly 100 percent accuracy in the collection of data on how many people are actually affected by autism - so the numbers could be even lower)instead of taking so much time and energy in telling these parents that they are wrong, than maybe the community would have more confidence that this issue is being addressed. Can not the doctors and pharmeceutical companies be wrong?? Could it be that unheard of? If they are not, why don't these companies instead help fund and research what truly does cause autism if not vaccines. God knows they have the money and resources to do it. Why not an international panel to work together in eradicating this epidemic? (I mean one where ideas are actually shared instead of being harbored out of the fear that the finder would not get sole credit in the medical journals) Do you know how much this is going to cause the taxpayers to get services for these children as they grow? If not just for the health of these children than for the pricetag it is going to cause this government?
I find it unbelievable that a country that can come up with these vaccinations in the first place to almost eradicate these diseases can get no closer to finding the cause of Autism. Maybe not a cure but at least the cause.
Unfortunatly there is good reason the community has lost faith in their doctors. Fear breads uncertainty and panic. Parents are afraid and yet the ones that they should be turning to have no answers for them. So why should they not be leary when they are being told vaccinations are 100 percent safe? Why should they not believe what you believe are these "crackpot" theories. At least these theories are giving them some kind of answer, wrong or not. From the doctors we get "we don't know." That is just not acceptable when you have such a dramatic increase of children with autism.
And posters please do not say that it is just that we are getting better at idenitfying it. If that were the case and the statistics were always this high there would have been a DECREASE in the number of people diagnosed with other disorders as more people were being properly diagnosed with autism. Such as mental retardation which was often given without a co-morbid diganosis of Autism when in fact Autism was the cause.But there is no such decrease in these numbers that is compatible to the huge increase of people being diagnosed with autism.
So in turn it is the medical community that is actully spurring on these beliefs in these theories as they have not offered any real tangible answers themselves.
Please stop telling us we are wrong and why and start telling us what is going on.
If Vaccinations were that damn safe There would be NO AUTISM< NO DEATHS, and NO MENTALY DISABLE OR DAMAGED CHILDREN, AND NO OTHER PHYSICAL REACTIONS PERIOD IN ANY CHILD!!!
When they do vaccines for children they start way way way to young. Their tiny little bodies cant handle so much crap in their systems, especially when their bodies dont have really any a immune system.
SO if your one of those parents that think vaccinations are the every answer to keeping a child safe, stop being one minded, start researching. Theres actually a list of websites on here u can check out and thats just to name a few that will help you understand!!!
But if you still want to vaccinate then WAIT TILL THEY ARE AT LEAST 2!! or 3!! when their immune systems are built stronger.
The doctor that i see for my daughter has 5 children that are not vaccinated and they are all grown up 3 of them anyways!!
I'd been talking to a nurse from an office and she was not vaccinated or her family and when she got her first born vaccinated he DIED!!
Unfortually their are many babies out there who are dieing after vaccinations, you just never hear about them because doctors tend to write it off as SIDS so their asses wont get sued for Malpractice!!
Addressing the education issue above, my children are not vaccinated and each state that we have lived in "requires" vaccines for school - but there are wavers, religiious, philosophical, and medical wavers that you can download for each state. They have never been questioned by any school.
Anyone who thinks that your child cant go to school if they dont get their shots is wrong!!
It is law that your child attends school so they cant denie your child from going to school just because you dont believe in vaccinations, just get an exemption form for your state
There is no greater rancor in medicine than the autism-vaccine debate, and this debate has reached the federal vaccine court where 5000 autistic kids and their families are requesting compensation for vaccine injury.
In California it is a illegal to inject newborns with the mercury containing vaccines (such as the Hep-B Shot, and it should be crime in your state as well.
Hepatitis B is transmitted with IV drug abuse, or via sexual transmission, both of which are somewhat impossible for newborns. It is much safer to wait until the child is 3 years old to give the shot.
Hopefully, the injection of mercury into newborns will soon become a relic of the ancient past, taking its rightful place in the museum along with bloodletting and leeches. Until then, there is much work to be done to remove mercury from our vaccinations. As a nation, we can't afford not to.
Read more at:
Autism and Mercury Vaccines by Jeffrey Dach MD
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Consider that when you weigh the views he states above.
To the person who was escorted from the doctor's office when you refused vaccines...that doctor has a responsibility to all the patients who visit his office. If he was a pediatrician where other infants might be visiting, it seems like a responsible move not to risk the introduction of diseases which would not be present if your child were vaccinated. The fact is, you're relying on the rest of us to vaccinate our children as the preventive measure which frees you all to choose NOT to vaccinate yours.
I think what many many many people are missing is a very important point; that it is not that ALL these parents would be against vaccinating their child if they weren't filled with so many toxins or if they were at least given the correct answer to what causes autism. The CDC themselves must reveal that there is a chance, however small, that your child can have an adverse reaction to these shots...so how can the doctor that wrote this blog, an accredited professional mind you, be irresponsible enough to claim in writing that he knows more than the CDC and that vaccinations are 100 percent safe??? Like I said earlier... and they wonder why we are losing faith and trust in the medical community???
Choose your poison, I say, but do it with your eyes open.
By the way, I made no judgments. I simply pointed out his affiliation with Scientology and suggested that his recommendations be taken in that light. You're the one that read something negative into that. I reject Scientology out of hand as voodoo religion with an agenda. If Scientologists didn't inject themselves so thoroughly into the health debate with unsupported claims and hyperbole on a regular basis I'd have no basis to discount him.
Wouldn't it be great if we all knew what caused autism? But we don't. One study says it's aging sperm; another study says genetics and so on. We also don't know what causes cancer, despite zillions of dollars of research in that area. Yet cancer has also been around far longer than vaccines. One of the reasons we don't know what causes cancer is because there are so many different factors that can't be boiled down to one single thing.
The bottom line is that you don't know that vaccines cause autism any more than you know that the air causes it. Neither do I. And it's frustrating. But I'd REALLY hate to have an autistic child who is further handicapped by the side effects of diseases easily prevented.
One of the most instructive things I ever did was go back and track my family history as far as I could go. When I did and gathered up as many artifacts from grandparents, great-aunts and uncles, cousins and parents as I could, a clear pattern emerged for me, showing that autism spectrum behavior was present on both sides of the family tree, wreaking havoc as far back as the mid 1800's. Anecdotal, yes. But still, at least there's some evidence for the autism spectrum disorders being genetic.
I have video tapes of my son, talking, socializing and developing normally prior to his 18 month MMR vaccine. He was meeting and surpassing all developmental milestones. Within two weeks of receiving his first MMR vaccine, the regression began as is noted on video. He stopped responding, seemed to "drift" off in he own little world, and lost physical skills as well. After six months of this behavior we immersed him in speech, occupational and behavior optometry therapies. Although he still was not developmentally appropriate, his communication skills and social skills seemed to be progressing as the video tape recordings show. However, pediatric records showed that development milestones (such as answering yes/no questions, joint attention, etc.) that he had once achieved, were not longer present.
At the age of 4 he received his second MMR vaccine. Shortly after this he STOPPED SPEAKING ALTOGETHER! Speech therapy three times a week did not help my son regain his ability to speak. Is this co-incidental timing. That severe marked regression occurred after receiving both MMR vaccines? I don't think so. Do I have "scientific" proof? No. I don't need any. I know my son, and I have video tapes to prove to his his skeptic doctors.
And now the clincher. When he was 12 or 13 he received another vaccine, which still contains the poison of thimersol. Within a week, he developed seizures and has been having weekly seizures since. He is now 17.
Is there scientific proof relating autism or other developmental delays to vaccines? Maybe not...but there is enough antedoctal evidence like mine to keep this issue alive.
i hope that you have a good lawyer and can take this to the highest courts. you will have lots of support. my prayers will be with you and your child.
I find many of the views expressed by people on the topic of vaccine quite ludicrious!!! Someone saying measles, polio, and rubbela etc are not killer diseases! That is a very ignorant statement! I have personally certified dead dozens of children who died from measles. They didnt recieve vaccination! Many more are living witht the residual complications of measles.
As a citizen of the only country where there is still the wild polio virus in the world, I am very conversant with the ravaging dangers of polio. A walk along major streets in state capitals of Nigeria, reveals paralyzed beggers who will tell you just how dangerous polio is. They were not vacinnated!
A child (or even an adult) dying from tetanus is a terrible heart wrenching sight. I know because i jave also PERSONALLY certified dead children whose mothers did not recieve any anti-tetanus vaccination.
Vacines safes Lives!!! There is absolutely nothing in this world that doesnt have potential side-effect! Even water does. You there are are potential side effects to some vaccines. There are guidelines to prevent (and reduce to a minimum) the occurence of these unwanted effects. DPT nor MMR are not associated with autism!!! Plain simple!
Please enough of the ignorant ramblings! Immunize your children. If you dont, you may come to regret it!
VACCINATIONS DON'T WORK!
I had mumps, measles, and rubella. I was born before those vaccines were available. I did not have polio, because the vaccine had recently been introduced and my mother marched me down to the public health clinic on the bus to receive it.
The little girl down the street, however, did have it and was disabled as a result. She wasn't vaccinated.
My three kids, none of them autistic, were vaccinated for all the diseases I named above. They had none of them.
Only the youngest received the chicken pox vaccine. It wasn't available for the oldest or the middle one until they were older. Of course, by then, both of the older ones had it, but the youngest one has not, despite exposure (thanks to stupid people who thought it would be a good idea to expose their kids to chicken pox when they were young).
None of my kids missed more than one day in a row of school for illness. If they had caught any of the diseases I named above, they'd have been out for a week to 10 days. But they weren't because they were vaccinated.
Now here's a challenge for you: Prove with empirical evidence (instead of shrill dogmatic low-level shouting) that: a) These diseases were already headed for natural eradication; and b) that vaccinations don't work.
You spew a lot of pretty-sounding theories that have NO BASIS in fact. They attract folks who, by nature are suspicious and paranoid, but they have NO FACTS. ZERO FACTS. I've read over one hundred messages and the only facts I see are ones in support of vaccinating children, not against.
And after reading the statement of the doctor above from Nigeria - I can see where parents would feel bullied by their doctors and take the vaccines against their will.
To the person on the topic of Scientology......where you commented on the lady escorted from the docs office, fist off how dare you try to say that if in infant isn't vaccinated then it must carry diseases!!! Thats what you are insinuating anyway. YOu have the most ridicules statement.
I think that doctors got everyone who vaccinates, who thinks they're so safe, and will protect their child, Hypnotized.
To all who have autistic children, i feel really bad for you, I've seen an autistic child, and its very upsetting espically when you know its probably from the vaccinations.
Its really sad if you start reading and doing your research you will find approximately how many children suffer DUE TO VACCINES!!!
Yet u never really see or hear about children who die cause they're not vaccinated.
Vaccine deaths are hard to find because many doctors WILL NOT ADMIT(SOBS) to a vaccine causing injury or death because they can get sued and or lose their medical licenses; therefore they just write it off as SIDS!!! CHicken-S!@#$ bastards!
Ya you may think that a doctor cares about your child, but when it comes down to your child getting damaged or dieing after his/her vaccinations, that doctor will do anything in his power to save HIS ass!
i just read on yahoo news the story of a woman having to lie about her religious beliefs to avoid her child getting shots. that is most unfortunate. this does not happen in nigeria. you just say no!!! infact, people that get the shots, have to queue up to recieve them and only on certain days. no one forces anyone. no one has to. the people know the benefits. the government knows the benefits.
doctors worldwide have to abide by the laws governing the practice in their practicing nations. 3rd world countries are no exception. in fact, a sizeable chunk of health care providers in usa come from outside the us. we dont bully our patients. i dont bully my patients. i love my patients. my joy is their health and wellbeing.
i am suprised at what fear can cause people to say and do. this whole brouhaha bottles down to fear. fear of the unknown. as of today, there is no definite known cause for autism.
but we do know that one of the greatest discoveries of modern time is the discovery of vaccines. while the danger of possible side effects is real, the benefits are far far greater. penicillin revolutionized the treatment of infectious diseases. but the possible side effects of pennicillin can even kill in a most painful way. do we stop giving people antibiotics because of this? certainly not.
eating well is of utmost importance in the defence against diseases . sanitation is very important. very very important. but with no form immunity to these killer diseases, on contact with the bugs that cause them, most children stand no chance. pls do read up on the issue of human immunity. half knowlegde is a most terrible disease.
i can just imagine people having this kind of discussions say 100 years from now about HIV/AIDS if a vaccine is eventually found. Can u imagine someone saying HIV is not dangerous? Simply absurd.
all the best with your decision. whatever you chose, you will need a doctor someday.
i don't appreciate the comment about being negligent. I don not vaccinate and i am proud of all of the research and conclusions that i have reached. my children are happy and healthy and, by far, not neglected. This whole debate in MY opinion is about informed consent. Weather you decide to vaccinate or not-don't do it without all of the facts. And it sounds to me that the jury is still out on vaccines and autism.
i don't appreciate the comment about being negligent. I don not vaccinate and i am proud of all of the research and conclusions that i have reached. my children are happy and healthy and, by far, not neglected. This whole debate in MY opinion is about informed consent. Weather you decide to vaccinate or not-don't do it without all of the facts. And it sounds to me that the jury is still out on vaccines and autism.
There is an amazing analysis from The Lancet (The UK's version of New England Journal of Medicine) that shows the possible link to Autism with the combination injection of MMR. I showed this trial to my doctor and she wouldn't even look at the synopsis before she dismissed it.
Here's the point: If you are uncomfortable with vaccinations, please wait. Don't let some uniformed jerk bully you into doing something you don't want to do just because they have MD after their name. You can wait until your kids are pre-Kindergarten and immunize them when their immune systems are up to the task of multiple injections. They question I would ask this doctor and any other is "What problems can occur if I just wait?" Sure there might be a measles outbreak, but I doubt it.
Children do not need to be vaccinated so young! Infact a doctor told me that they do it to them while they are young so they don't remember!
What if u vaccinate then say you moved and went to another doctor and they told you to either wait or not to do them at all?
Now legally they cant tell you not to vaccinate they will lose their license, but what if you heard them over talking with staff saying they would never vax their child?
Then who'd you believe.
Doctors know whats really going on about the whole vaccination thing, but its their job to tell you to do it anyways regardless of their feelings.
About finding a cause.....
Do you honestly think that the Government is going to let that kinda information out to the public? they know what causes autism, but they are not willing to admit it, because of how many people can sue the manufactures.
Not only that but they will come up with anything else possible in order to try and keep people from blaming vaccines as the cause of their child's autism! or any other damage that child might have.
Largest-Ever Search for Autism Genes Reveals New Clues
National Institute of Mental Health
The largest search for autism genes to date, funded in part by the National Institutes of Health (NIH), has implicated components of the brain's glutamate chemical messenger system and a previously overlooked site on chromosome 11. Based on 1,168 families with at least two affected members, the genome scan also adds to evidence that tiny, rare variations in genes may heighten risk for autism spectrum disorders (ASD)*.
The study is the first to emerge from the Autism Genome Project (AGP) Consortium, a public-private collaboration involving more than 120 scientists and 50 institutions in l9 countries. Their report is published online in the February 18, 2007 issue of Nature Genetics.
With NIH support, the AGP is pursuing studies to identify specific genes and gene variants that contribute to vulnerability to autism. These include explorations of interactions of genes with other genes and with environmental factors, and laboratory research aimed at understanding how candidate susceptibility genes might work in the brain to produce the disorders.
"This is the most ambitious effort yet to find the locations of genes that may confer vulnerability to autism," said NIH Director Elias A. Zerhouni, M.D. "The AGP is revealing clues that will likely influence the direction of autism research for years to come."
"Although we know autism is highly heritable, complex gene interactions and submicroscopic anomalies create a din of statistical noise that drowns out detection of signals from linked sites in the genome," explained Dr. Bernie Devlin, University of Pittsburgh, who served as a corresponding author on the project along with the University of Toronto's Dr. Stephen Scherer. "To amplify these signals, we brought to bear gene chip technology with a huge sample, and also screened for these fine-level anomalies, factoring them into the analysis."
Clues emerged adding to evidence that implicates components of the brain's glutamate neurotransmitter system in autism. Glutamate increases neuronal activity and plays an important role in wiring up the brain during early development. Since autism likely stems from faulty wiring, a genetic blueprint gone awry in this pivotal neurotransmitter system is a prime suspect. Some key genes associated with the glutamate system are located in chromosome regions previously associated with autism, note the researchers.
Previous studies have also linked abnormal glutamate functioning to disorders such as Fragile X syndrome and tuberous sclerosis, which share some symptoms with autism. It's not unusual for individuals with either syndrome to be diagnosed with autism.
Among the new clues is stronger evidence for an association between autism and sites of genes for neurexins, molecules that build glutamate synapses — the connection machinery by which brain cells communicate.
A site on chromosome 11 most strongly linked to autism in this study harbors genes for proteins that shuttle glutamate across the synapse. Although detected previously, the linkage signal at this site was regarded as less important until now.
Submicroscopic anomalies — tiny deletions, or the doubling, tripling or even multiplying of stretches of genetic material — are relatively common in the human genome and aren't necessarily harmful. However, recent evidence suggests that these anomalies may contribute to risk for — or rarely even cause — autism if they affect certain sites associated with the disorder. The AGP researchers found a number of these variations in such suspect chromosomal locations in affected individuals, including deletion of a neurexin gene.
These anomalies can also make it more difficult to detect the genes that more commonly account for autism risk, say the researchers. Since each major autism candidate gene likely contributes to risk for a relatively small percentage of families, its linkage signal can easily be lost in the statistical noise generated by those of the anomalies — just as a high level of static can drown out a weak radio signal.
To amplify the power of possible linkages detected, the researchers analyzed many subsets of data, variously excluding from the sample factors like the submicroscopic anomalies, female sex, and ethnicity. These analyses unmasked several suggestive linkages that would otherwise have eluded detection.
Researchers last Fall reported (http://www.nimh.nih.gov/
A second phase of AGP studies will follow up on leads suggested in this first phase.
Gene typing and data analysis was funded by Autism Speaks (formerly NAAR). NIH Institutes, led by NIMH, funded the recruitment and assessment of U.S. families.
The AGP Consortium is comprised of four existing consortia: Autism Genetics Cooperative (AGC), Autism Genetic Resource Exchange (AGRE) Consortium, Collaborative Programs of Excellence (CPEA), International Molecular Genetic Study of Autism Consortium (IMGSAC). Dr. Andy Shih of Autism Speaks served as scientific manager of the project.
Principal investigators of NIH-funded components of the study were: Joseph Buxbaum, Susan Folstein, Neil Risch, James Sutcliffe, Daniel Geschwind, Bernie Devlin, Edwin Cook, Catherine Lord, NIMH; Joachim Hallmayer, Margaret Pericak-Vance, James Sutcliffe, Thomas Wassink, NINDS; Geraldine Dawson, Gerard Schellenberg, William McMahon, Fred Volkmar, NICHD. The research was also supported by General Clinical Research Centers at Yale University and the University of Utah, both funded by the NCRR.
Information about Autism Spectrum Disorders:
The National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) mission is to reduce the burden of mental and behavioral disorders through research on mind, brain, and behavior. More information is available at the NIMH website (http://www.nimh.nih.gov/).
The NICHD sponsors research on development, before and after birth; maternal, child, and family health; reproductive biology and population issues; and medical rehabilitation. For more information, visit the Web site at http://www.nichd.nih.gov/.
The National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke is the nation's primary supporter of research on the brain and nervous system. More information about stroke and other neurological disorders can be found on the NINDS web site, www.ninds.nih.gov.The National Center for Research Resources (NCRR) provides laboratory scientists and clinical researchers with environments and tools that they can use to prevent, detect, and treat a wide range of diseases. This support enables discoveries that begin at the molecular and cellular level, move to animal-based studies, and then are translated to patient-oriented clinical research, resulting in cures and treatments for both common and rare diseases. NCRR connects researchers with patients and communities across the nation to bring the power of shared resources and research to improve human health. For more information, visit www.ncrr.nih.gov.
The National Institutes of Health (NIH) — The Nation's Medical Research Agency — includes 27 Institutes and Centers and is a component of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. It is the primary federal agency for conducting and supporting basic, clinical and translational medical research, and it investigates the causes, treatments, and cures for both common and rare diseases. For more information about NIH and its programs, visit www.nih.gov.
Publication Release: July 26, 2007
I've seen several comments (including the original article itself) citing problems regarding the storage of vaccines. I have to wonder if improper storage is playing a bigger role than we think in the link between vaccines and autism. Not all doctors would throw out $20,000 in vaccines due to storage issues. I'm not saying doctors are unethical but they are human. Doctor's offices have many employees that aren't doctors or registered nurses. It just seems like a lot of room for error.
We can't forget that all vaccines have horrible components, including the disease itself. We also can't forget that even though the CDC is nonprofit, it is part of the government, and it still has paid employees. Throughout the years, the organization's mismanagement regarding money has been scrutinized. Non-profit only means that after all the expenses (and made-up expenses), the organization's profit is or close to zero.
On the CDC's website, they list my allergy to the DPT shot as "one in more than a million." I've always tried to convince everyone I've ever met that I'm one in a million, but realistically speaking, a DPT allergy is only one in a million+? Either that's really hard to believe or I'm humble. Oddly enough, the website says the exact same thing with the exact same wording for allergies to the MMR vaccine.